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    #1 User is offline ? IL2000?

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    Posted Today, 09:04 AM

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    @TheRecruitScoop: A source tells me that Malick Kone is transferring out of Rutgers & Ibby Djimde is transferring out of Illinois.

    It begins...

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    #2 User is online ? Blessd24?

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    Posted Today, 09:06 AM

    ?IL2000, on 29 March 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

    This one doesnt bother me.

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    #3 User is offline ? feartheillini?

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    Posted Today, 09:11 AM

    To be honest, it does bother me in that Ibby is a guy who's just looking for an education. I know he doesn't help our team, but it would have been nice to get him academic schollies so he could get his UI degree.

    Maybe he should just drop hoops and try to stay at Illinois with some combination of aid.

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    #4 User is offline ? BleedOandB11?

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    Posted Today, 09:22 AM

    Good. Get rid of another one of Weber's mistakes.

    I hope he lands on his feet and gets his education but he should never have been offered a basketball scholarship.

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    #5 User is online ? illinicalvin?

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    Posted Today, 09:32 AM

    View Postfeartheillini, on 29 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

    To be honest, it does bother me in that Ibby is a guy who's just looking for an education. I know he doesn't help our team, but it would have been nice to get him academic schollies so he could get his UI degree.

    Maybe he should just drop hoops and try to stay at Illinois with some combination of aid.


    Do we have any basis for believing the "just for the education" line? B/c I remember hearing that CJ Jackson was just "happy to be on the team," and then he went to the football team, an NAIA school in Hawaii and now he's at his 4th stop in Europe. Obviously, he had more of a drive to play basketball than anyone at Illinois claimed.

    Ibby may want to play basketball, but it's clear Illinois isn't going to be the place regardless. Djimde was a big reach by Weber, a recruit who was taken because there was a present concern on the team with "toughness" and Weber had a sincere desire to damage class balance and stack guys 4-deep on certain depth chart slots.

    I wish him well, but it's probably for the best for both parties.

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    #6 User is offline ? Jerry519?

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    Posted Today, 09:33 AM

    The kid never played here---he should transfer where he can.

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    #7 User is online ? Tempo34?

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    Posted Today, 09:36 AM

    Wishing him well. Hope he finds a place he can get some court time.

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    #8 User is offline ? feartheillini?

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    Posted Today, 09:38 AM

    View Postillinicalvin, on 29 March 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

    Do we have any basis for believing the "just for the education" line? B/c I remember hearing that CJ Jackson was just "happy to be on the team," and then he went to the football team, an NAIA school in Hawaii and now he's at his 4th stop in Europe. Obviously, he had more of a drive to play basketball than anyone at Illinois claimed.

    Ibby may want to play basketball, but it's clear Illinois isn't going to be the place regardless. Djimde was a big reach by Weber, a recruit who was taken because there was a present concern on the team with "toughness" and Weber had a sincere desire to damage class balance and stack guys 4-deep on certain depth chart slots.

    I wish him well, but it's probably for the best for both parties.

    Good point, I'm just projecting based on blurbs and I shouldn't have done that. Good post.

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    #9 User is offline ? Lkdog?

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    Posted Today, 09:52 AM

    View Postfeartheillini, on 29 March 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

    To be honest, it does bother me in that Ibby is a guy who's just looking for an education. I know he doesn't help our team, but it would have been nice to get him academic schollies so he could get his UI degree.

    Maybe he should just drop hoops and try to stay at Illinois with some combination of aid.

    Wish the kid all the best.
    I am confused, though.
    Was Weber and staff under the understanding that he just wanted a degree and all agreed he was not a high D1 player?

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    #10 User is offline ? sidra1968?

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    Posted Today, 09:54 AM

    This makes me a bit sad for him, but that is what needed to be done. It'll probably work out just fine for him in the end. I'm sure he'll remember his good times here.

    Good luck Ibby!

    Ultimately what I'll remember about him was when I would have my young niece go over the yearly b-ball poster to learn the guys names before the season started, of course "Ibby" was a favorite!

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    #11 User is offline ? Winthiscentury?

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    Posted Today, 09:58 AM

    I really don't think there is going to be the attrition that people think there is going to be. I think that this one was a no brainer. The young man under no circumstances was going to see any court time.

    The others that have been discussed, Henry and Shaw, I don't know. I see Henry staying. Next year, we don't have anybody else like him on our roster, less maybe....Hill? He has to know that as a Junior that has produced, he has a GOLDEN opportunity to take the bull by the balls and be a major, major contributor next year on a team that is going to sorely lack scoring threats, at that position, from the perimeter. Now, he'll have to put the time in and I'm sure Groce is clear about that, but I'd be pretty surprised if Groce was nudging him out the door. The guy has shown that he is a talent, shooting and rebounding the basketball.

    That moves us to Shaw. My issue with him is that he doesn't look overly athletic. That said, with McLauren gone, who else on this roster has the body to at least clear people out. McLauren didn't do much offensively, but he at least cleared space. Isn't that all we'd be looking for out of a guy like Shaw? There is no way that you can leave that job to a Freshman. I don't care what people think of Morgan or Colbert, but you just don't run a legit 6'8" player off the team, who did see some time here and there, in favor of two unproven commodities.

    The wild card is the success this team had. Maybe, just maybe, these kids had fun last year and want to be part of a rebuilding process? Maybe that have relationships with some of the kids coming in? Maybe they like the coaching staff and the school?

    Djimde(sp?), is an out of state guy who it makes sense that he move closer to home to surround himself with family, friends and find a fit. I'm not so sure that the, what will be Juniors next year, are going to be pushed out or will want out. I'm not so sure we all aren't rushing to judgement.

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    #12 User is offline ? IL2000?

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    Posted Today, 10:00 AM

    Hardly anyone has mentioned Henry as a transfer possibility. Langford is a way more likely candidate.

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    #13 User is offline ? Winthiscentury?

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    Posted Today, 10:03 AM

    View PostLkdog, on 29 March 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

    Wish the kid all the best.
    I am confused, though.
    Was Weber and staff under the understanding that he just wanted a degree all agreed he was not a high D1 player?

    I think they truly believed that they thought this guy was going to come in and basically do what McClauren did. Get some minutes, provide toughness, be active on both boards and provide a big body that would help them match up better with the MSU's and Wisconsin's of the world.

    Weber was a big fan of going after the under the radar, work-a-holic, all out effort guys. Chester Frazier is his kind of guy and that is the kind of guy he can coach. I think that's what he sees in guys like Ibby, Mike Davis, the kid from Crete, etc...Unfortunately, it doesn't translate real well when putting together a high D-1 program.

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    #14 User is offline ? spark mandrill?

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    Posted Today, 10:06 AM

    ?IL2000, on 29 March 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

    Hardly anyone has mentioned Henry as a transfer possibility. Langford is a way more likely candidate.

    I don't know how realistic it is or was, but Myke Henry has been a prominent name in almost every transfer thread for the past two years.

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    #15 User is offline ? Winthiscentury?

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    Posted Today, 10:11 AM

    View PostIL2000, on 29 March 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

    Hardly anyone has mentioned Henry as a transfer possibility. Langford is a way more likely candidate.

    Again, Langford sat out his Freshman year and redshirted. He still has three years of eligibility. He has a huge opportunity next year as well. Now, if he gets buried on the depth chart next year, I'd put him in the Djimde category after next year, but he had to know his minutes were going to be limited last year given the roster.

    As a reshirt Junior, I'm not sure it's in his best interest to leave. I would think that with Paul, DJ and Griffey all gone, he owes it to himself to give it a real shot next year and then if it doesn't work out, transfer. This team doesn't have a bevvy of proven 6'5'' to 6'7'' swingmen. If it were you, don't you think you would owe it to yourself to give it one big swing of the bat to play on this team, in arguably the best conference in the country, on TV, in front of 16,000 fans, with a known coaching staff, players you have a relationship with, knowing that the possibility still exists that you don't have to go through the whole transfer process and sit out ANOTHER year? Seems to me like it would be worth one more shot.

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    #16 User is offline ? Winthiscentury?

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    Posted Today, 10:12 AM

    View Postspark mandrill, on 29 March 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

    I don't know how realistic it is or was, but Myke Henry has been a prominent name in almost every transfer thread for the past two years.

    That is correct. He was the biggest name, due to the lack of significant playing time.

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    #17 User is online ? Tempo34?

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    Posted Today, 10:13 AM

    ?IL2000, on 29 March 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

    Hardly anyone has mentioned Henry as a transfer possibility. Langford is a way more likely candidate.

    Henry has a big opportunity next year, I don't see him transferring. I kind of hope Langford doesn't either. His length and athleticism still intrigue me. With some court time he could be a player that brings some good defense and fast break opportunities. Also, he's got a younger brother that's supposed to be 5 star quality.

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    #18 User is offline ? IL2000?

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    Posted Today, 10:15 AM

    ?Tempo34, on 29 March 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

    Henry has a big opportunity next year, I don't see him transferring. I kind of hope Langford doesn't either. His length and athleticism still intrigue me. With some court time he could be a player that brings some good defense and fast break opportunities. Also, he's got a younger brother that's supposed to be 5 star quality.


    Agreed. Let Shaw go and keep the rest. That would give us two more scholarships to play with for 5th year guys and 2014s.

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    #19 User is offline ? illinifighting?

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    Posted Today, 10:16 AM

    Ibby (along with Henry and Paul) were Big Ten Academic All-American. Weber might have given Ibby a scholarship to help the team GPA. Just a thought.

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    #20 User is offline ? jdubbs14?

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    Posted Today, 10:21 AM

    I had heard Ibby was going to graduate next year anyway. But when you don't play but maybe 10 minutes the whole year it is time to go if you want to play somewhere. From what I understand even academic scholorships count toward the basketball team if a player is receiving some kind of aid. I could be wrong.

    I think Shaw leave before Henry as I don't see him playing much next year either. They need at least one more to get the guys they want from the '14 class.

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